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Globear - Town
Prada - Town
Quick - Neutral
Rice - Scum?
Rise-Chan - Scum?
Shōck - Scum?
STINK - Scum?
Ratchet - Scum

Vote : Ratchet
@Lord Maple

 

Well the flavour seems to imply he hid behind Mafia, so I think the Serial was likely blocked (or shot at Iron (aka bulletproof) Town). Ans was likely going to be in the lynch conversation so I too can't see why anyone would burn a kill there.

 

Reads:

Town:
Globear
SK

Town Lean:
Prada

Null:
Rice
Rise
STINK
Ratchet

Scum Lean:
Shock

Still way too many question marks for my taste.

@Rise-Chan
@Rice
@STINK

I want to see a lot more activity from you this phase.

 

What makes you think SK was blocked?

 

So I just checked the roles again, and the one I believed to be Serial, Add, seems to be a 2-shot killer. Would a serial be a two shot killer? Might well be two survivors, in which case I would like them to make themselves known in some way (obviously being careful of the rules).

 

Because 2 kills occurred Night 1. Night 2 it appears that only 1 occurred, with the other death occurring through Ansat hiding behind scum. I just double-checked and it appears that it's only a 2-shot kill, so it's possible they abstained too, but other than that I don't see too many possibilities left, outside of, maybe, doctor protection (and I would argue that burning ones last kill on someone even remotely likely to be protected would be pretty bad play) or shooting iron town. And, of course, roleblocking.

 

Okay I am gonna just give up on the other 4 players due to the lack of content provided from there and gonna pick the one person I feel scummy toward the most. Ratchet. It's too risky to go for the other players 3 mafia's still exist.

Listen if Shock was indeed mafia would he really just afk and become inactive? it's more likely that he got a townie role and lost interest. I know this is far stretched but it's more likely someone to lose interest if and go afk if he was townie instead of mafia. Just thought out there.

 

This is horrible logic. We have, by my count, at least 4 or 5 players with very low activity. Chances of them all being town are rather slim, I would think. In fact, I'll tell you what it is. It's WIFOM.

 

In my experience its the exact opposite. Some people like to play as Scum, newbies I would guess mostly DON'T like to play as Scum so they sub out.

And Ratchet is right, this is pretty much just WIFOM.

 

Futhermore, plenty of players have gone inactive once they roll Mafia. One such you may be familiar with, SK, was Spiegel, who was often one of the highest posters as Town, and barely posted at all as scum.

I'm also, by the way, not a fan of your "just trust my reads and lynch in there" stunt last phase, but I'm really struggling to see you have the temerity to pull that off as scum.

 

Why would one survivor have a killing role and the other not tho?

 

I'd question why a Survivor would have a Hider role that kills them if they hide behind scum, as objectively it makes more sense for them to just abstain every night rather than roll the dice.

I don't know, really. It just strikes me as weird that a Serial would be limited to a 2 shot kill despite being on their own entirely.

 

Listen i am not counting them out. It's just at this point I rather lynch the most person I have reads on and in my scum list as well. That is you. I know the second point is wifom but from my experience it's the opposite.

I never said anyone to trust on my reads. I simply gave out my read and asked players to cooperate with me and lynch within the lynching pool I provided which I believe the majority of scum/indies exist.

 

since we are discussing why we do not have another kill from Serial Killer. Maybe he/she was inactive? not far stretched looking at the list of inactive players we have.

 

Firstly, the second point being WIFOM disqualifies it as a point because it doesn't prove the argument. Secondly, the issue is that your argument isn't standing up. "Oh, we might be at LyLo, maybe, but let's just ignore that and go for what I say". In phases like this, you do the exact opposite, SK. You try to be as thorough as possible.

Oh yes you did. You made a list and then appealed to people to pick from that list and you all lynch them. by definition, is asking them to trust your reads. You can word it however you like, "co-operate" or what not, that's still requiring them to trust your reads.