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Sure, if you don't mind me doing it in next phase, considering the DP will end soon and I won't be active much till then

 

Current votes

Quick: Ansatsuken => Panda
Rise-chan: Rice => Panda
Prada: Ansatsuken => Panda
SK: Shock
Globear: Ratchet
Ansatsuken: Shock
Ratchet: Ansatsuken => Panda
Panda: Ratchet
Silver: Panda

Just as a reminder, please tag me when you vote. It makes things easier to keep track of for me. o/
Also, I'll be going out soon. I don't know how long it's going to take, but there is only 2 hours left of day phase. If I'm not here by then, I ask of @Rohan report the end of day phase. Until I come back, night phase will not start, so you may continue to discuss. Any votes after the countdown will not count. In the case in which Rohan isn't here by the end of the countdown, I cannot hold you guys accountable, so you may consider it an extension of day phase until Rohan or I notify otherwise.

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@Globear
@Ansatsuken
@Prada
@Panda 1 Konobi
@Rice
@SK
@Ratchet
@Quick
@Silver
@Rise-Chan
@Shōck
@STINK

 

It bothers me a bit Silver. I feel like I addressed everything regarding what SK was saying, but in the end it was coming down to "I think this, you think that, and we're not going to agree here".

 

I'll try to not go by quotes and just tell you what I remember off my memory.

SK was saying your reasons were weak and iffy. You replied how so? The reasons against SK didn't make sense to me. The reason that was presented against SK was he posting about one member, but voted someone else. While this sounds like a good reason in of itself, it doesn't really stand when you look at the context. SK was addressing some posts in the first 2 pages of DP1 and then, as a pressure vote, voted someone else. If you'll read the first 2 pages of the game, his reasons to vote on him was based on getting a reaction from someone who was yet to post, and was not with the intention of voting cuz of a scum read. He was trying to engage people. He talked about someone, but it was purely to get an interaction going on. He saw another one online, and voted him to get a reaction. It, to me, looked like a way to start more conversation. The discussion on a single player he was having, which I believe lasted around 10 posts, was to see the reaction. I doubt anybody would vote in the first 2 pages cuz of the content by then.

 

I'll be able to post more next DP cuz I can be around 15 minutes max, and that's on a mobile

 

*I can be around 15 minutes max rn and that's on mobile. After that I'll be missing this DP completely

 

No, my point was SK voted Stink on reasoning that others were just as guilty of. When I first asked him about this, he claimed that it was something only Stink was guilty of, and when I showed that it wasn't, he changed his point to mean that the others had posted some game-relevant content, when Stink did not, despite Stink making 1 post and the rest making more. It struck me as contradictory and moving the goalposts. I don't mind the vote itself, I mind how he flipped a bit on the reasoning.

 

It was nice knowing you all
*tear tear
But like all great heroes, they have to go

 

Then, I feel you misunderstood SK's reasonings.
SK said that Stink fluffed (the original reason which you're referring to, I believe) and the others didn't yet. Since to you fluff counted as posts which aren't contributive to the game, it didn't make sense to you how Stink's posts are fluff while others not being so.
Afterwards, when SK tried to explain how he considers Stink's posts to be fluff and others not to be, he realises the difference in yours and his standard on fluff. He stated that according to him, fluff is posts which aren't related to the game itself, or to be more apt, he said that Stink was guilty of being completely unrelated to the game in his post, whereas others who posted, weren't so.
His reasoning itself didn't change, it's a miscommunication of what fluff is to you and what fluff is to SK

 

Going the gas station to pick up a smoke. will be back in like 15.

Thanks for subbing in @Silver, you're a hero regardless of alignment.

You mentioned I made a contradiction or two, Does that still hold? I can't say I am surprised, that argument for me comes up quite a bit. In any case, I'd like to see said contradictions so I can try and clear the air.

 

I think he said something along those lines too, but I wasn't (still aren't, really) content with his definition, and how he semed to be unaware of what I consider fluff (given that I've been pretty consistent on this for a long time).

 

I don't exactly remember the content of the contradiction @Quick so I'm not sure if it holds but I did have a urge of calling it out the moment I read it even though I was way far away from being caught up. I'm having trouble finding it on my mobile so I doubt I'll be able to mention the post in this DP though

 

Well, then that's a completely different point then. The fact that SK didn't consider your definition of fluff and you expected him to do so, wasn't of my knowledge till now so my doubts about this specific point is cleared. I'll reply to more points later cuz I'm really stretching my time now

 

So I think Silver might be cleared?? Reason being is that the person he replaced was said to not have any activity at night and we know there were two NKs at night, so that would mean its a lot more likely that if silver is Scum their slot wouldn't be replaced. On top of this reasoning, I have to say, Silver has been playing a straight up game and I don't see really any Scum intention behind their posts.

 

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where were you all game? Finally someone who got what I meant.