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Discussion in 'Chatroom Corner' started by Gobb, Nov 23, 2023.

  1. Gobb finds a way

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    Bro is too much of a coward to make shanks a more grey/"bad" character
     
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    Good afternoon, cum sampler.

    Better than Fairy Tail's alternate universe counterpart bs.

    Ultimate weeb.
     
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    Hello fren

    I thought that alternate universe shit wasn't the worst, it was an interesting concept, but didn't execute overly well.
     
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    I'm hangry (hungry + angry). How are you?

    The concept itself is okay. And I'm not against it. But, yeah, very poorly executed.

    There are Disney shows made for little kids that had far better written implementations of alternate universe shit. And I mean actual quality writing.
     
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    I wouldn't doubt that lol
     
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    By the way...



    My laptop:
    Bitch, don't even think about it. Don't you fukking dare!
     
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    >UE5slop
    it was over before it even started
     
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    May be they had issues with RED engine? I'd rather see a well optimized UE5 title than another buggy disaster. Then again, you can fukk up with UE5 as well, as we have seen with some titles.
     
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    I don't think a single well optimized UE5 game exists. I think across the board almost entirely optimization is dead. Barely any devs know anything beyond check marked solutions that "work" but aren't cost effective. Companies aren't interested in putting the time and resources into proper engineers/programmers. All of the people that maintained RED engine left, there's no one to maintain it. So they mass hire "new talent" that only know UE5. It's why largely every company is switching to UE which is why it's also bad because basically everyone is either incompetent or given impossible tasks within deadlines.
     
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    Not to mention that UE is basically entirely created/funded for fortnight and other commercial uses so shit doesn't scale to all of the other types of games such as open world.
     
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    And don't forget outsourcing work to over-worked/underpaid contractors in Ukraine, Poland, or even my own home state (yeah, I've seen it happen with a wife's cousin). Because to hell with having an in-house dev team that you have to pay fairly.

    UE5 is also being overused for animation and special effects work in TV shows. Almost all of the sci-fi and fantasy shows coming out on streaming since 2020 have used Unreal Engine in some capacity or even in a heavy capacity.
     
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    Outsource's whole premise is flawed. It's impossible to do the same quality work for cheaper when every level is micro managed, underpaid and overworked. There can also be multi-level language barriers that create issues amongst other things. For example, Head company is in Japan, China, etc, and outsources to other languages. Directives get filtered through multiple levels of translation/interpretation. Imo outsource should almost never be outsourced between different languages where there is a critical need for specific/accurate detail/instructions. It just introduces too much room for error when shit can't even be accurately translated between languages half the time. That's just one aspect of outsourcing too and assuming outsourcing should even exist to begin with...
     
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    @JoeJoe I will join you with a 9800x3d :gigachad
     
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    The problem with modern game dev work is that critical shit is outsourced.

    Take Halo Infinite's development hell, for example. MS forced 343i to outsource important work on the god damn multiplayer to a Ukrainian company, and then to a Polish one after the Russian invasion. And then they fired a butt-load of staff at 343i over the next two years.

    Sega is known to outsource work on some of their titles to some studios in Bulgaria and Turkey.

    A cousin of my wife's had to work on a game from Activision-Blizzard because they couldn't be bothered to pay their staff in the US and Canada a fair rate, apparently.

    :k
     
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    100%. It's a clown world. It's almost like it's flipped. What should be internal work is outsourced and the small unimportant shit that could be outsourced is internal. xD

    Not only outsourced, but the also rely heavily on contract workers, iirc 12 month fixed contracts, spend 3 months learning the proprietary engine and then work for 9 months and then never get hired again. Gee, I wonder why the product was a piece of shit. LMAO.

    Disgusting. These companies deserve to go broke.

    Before you rage out at me for having a 7800x3d friend had a rough year and currently isn't working, Monster Hunter runs like shit on his pc (9900k 1080) so I'm giving him my 7800x3d/2080ti (i'm upgrading to 5090 regardless) so that we can both have a good experience with MH (it's our shit we have payed it together since we were 10 so even if I'm being a hypocritical piece of shit by supporting a mess of optimization It's just my one weakness).
     
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