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Normal Game Thread Full Metal Panic!: Fighting Boy Meets Girl Mafia

Discussion in 'Normal Games Archive' started by Ratchet, Jul 8, 2017.

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  1. Rotaretilbo Regular Member

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    I think it's very low. Because you must know the identity of your object of affection (the player, that is), anyone with flavor knowledge would be able to figure out whether your character would be a fan of Town or Scum. It's one thing to have a relatively confirmed Towny result from this, but another entirely to basically instantly catch Scum from it.

    Please clarify how your role works with Ratchet before suggesting plans contingent around how it works.

    I am actually curious, because Prada raises a legitimate point: if he is not Kurz, which character is he?

    I mean, I know Daoko flipped VT already, so I can't really give my genuine thoughts without being biased by that knowledge, but I think that it was...strange. Mostly, I didn't really feel like Prada and daoko were connected, up until Prada suggested that he could void a lynch on daoko, but that comes well after pou's case against Prada that prompts votes on daoko.

    I felt like pou was jumping to conclusions, but Prada's reaction felt more hostile than reasoned. I have this sinking feeling they're both Town, but if I had to choose one, I'd probably lynch Prada over pou. Even if Glob doesn't understand her role, there is at least a moderate chance that pou was the target of a kill last Night, and while I think that her initial argument against daoko was grasping (and incorrect), I feel like Prada's been grasping all game.

    Uh, sure.


    I think this explains what put you on people's radar. I think others felt similarly that your argument against Falcon was silly and poorly substantiated, and that your attempt to treat it as common sense was suspicious.

    Ok, this is super weird. By the same argument you offered pou earlier, what antagonist character makes sense as being masoned with your character?

    Eh, I even separated my Glob responses and normal posts to clearly distinguish them, so people couldn't say I was exclusively focusing on Glob.

    I just want to clarify that I was Town on Day 1 of Hellsing Mafia.

    It's so wonderful, having someone who can feel my pain.

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    Honestly, it wasn't near as bad as you made it out to be. The problem is that you're not really considering perspective.

    In order for Crisp to be Scum, she would have needed to intentionally lie about asking you a question previously. However, why would she intentionally lie about a thing that could be conclusively proven? She even links the post in question.

    In order for Crisp to be Town, she needs to have held a mistaken belief. All of her behavior makes sense if she misremembered to whom she asked a previous question.

    Of the two, I think the latter is frankly a lot more likely, and while I think lynching Daoko to try and resolve the whole Prada thing was kinda silly (I'd frankly have rather lynched Prada outright), the Crisp diversion seems even sillier.

    I've already addressed this.


    So yes, two Masons (who, by nature, share a QT) can be of opposing alignment. Ratchet learned most of his role stuff from me, and where I'm from, Neighbor isn't a thing.

    I mean, I've explicitly stated several times that, since Glob is effectively confirmed, it is important that she understand how her role works before she gives us information which we must accept at face value based on her role. I've also specifically not been focusing just on Glob.

    I just want to get something straight, because daoko did something similar yesterday, and its irksome.

    Saying a thing which applies to your claim is not the same as claiming, if it also applies to other possible claims. In daoko's case, saying "I investigate innocent" is not the same thing as claiming Vanilla Towny, because "I investigate innocent" could also mean he was Cop, or a Doctor, or a Roleblocker, or literally anything but a MIller. Likewise, saying "I will flip green" is not the same as claiming Vanilla Towny, because ALL TOWN FLIP GREEN.

    Now, in this case, saying "I am not useful" is not the same as claiming Vanilla Towny, because there are active abilities which are not useful, and also passive abilities. Case in ******* point, Prada's claim is something which is virtually useless. He is not a Vanilla Towny.

    So, if you have not actually claimed, but have instead hinted at your claim sort of in a way that doesn't actually reveal your claim, don't be a ******* dick and pretend like it's obvious when people ask you to ******* actually claim.
     
  2. Rotaretilbo Regular Member

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    Anyway, reads and stuff.

    I think that Glob, Doc, and his investigatees (myself, Crisp, and pou) are Town.

    Based on the length of Night, we can conclude that at least one Mafioso is active enough to submit Mafia actions. However, the Mafia's kills thus far have been questionable. Ningen on Night 0 and Rail on Night 2 are both weird choices, while pou on Night 1 isn't a terrible choice (and Glob would also make sense). Based on this, I am probably most suspicious of Falcon, Maple, SK, and Rise. I'm also wary of both Evil and Shanksy, as they have been lurking. I'm on the fence about Panda.

    Right now, I believe only a handful of players have not role claimed. I believe its myself, SK, and Rise. Correct me if I'm wrong. I think few others have role claimed but not flavor claimed, but can't remember clearly. At this point, we might be best to pursue a mass claim. We've already outed two of our most important roles, and with so few players still being a secret, the risk is somewhat reduced.
     
  3. Crimson Falcon pussy lounge

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    Granted it's WIFOM, but I wouldn't kill or propose killing Viole N0 tbh.
    Hell I'd argue about any of the mafia kill choices thus far. Sue me, they've all been stupid.

    but I know you can't take that as fact or anything but just worth mentioning for when game's over.
     
  4. Punk Panda 1 Konobi

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    @Ratchet I m not willing to read all 63 pages simply the time needed to do so and the words within the pages. I joined the game to late in my opinion and feel like I cannot keep up with the post. u_u I withdraw form the mafia for any sub to take my position. :(
     
  5. Glowbeary Tentacle Taco +.+

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    So panda is getting subbed? Musings problem is we cant question Prada/panda while another sub is coming in who again will need to catch up and argh.

    Kinda wanna lynch PP theres enough suspicion there right?

    You lost your ompf in this game after a while
    Seems a bit odd, really youre kinda like the ghost behind the scenes right now
    He could be going with his own suss list.
    Musings curious it didn't work though the only thing I can think of that it failed due to conditional iron or whatever the frick frack it's called.
     
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    Feel this round would've been a lot saner with a town vig.

    Evil, Panda, Shanksette, Rise??? have they even posted ONCE?
     
  7. Glowbeary Tentacle Taco +.+

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    What
     
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    Death list.
     
  9. Glowbeary Tentacle Taco +.+

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    "Have they posted"

    What

    I mean

    What
     
  10. Crimson Falcon pussy lounge

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    RISE
     
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    Hence Rise??????? with question marks
     
  12. Glowbeary Tentacle Taco +.+

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    Then why are those three in the same sentance?
     
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    focus glob, focus -_-

    they're the suspect list

    with rise being the entire last part

    it's not rocket science
     
  14. Glowbeary Tentacle Taco +.+

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    But theres nothing to indicate it's just about rise
     
  15. poutanko bunny ~ (˵ ゚ヮ゚˵)

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    @Rotaretilbo If Prada is not Kurz, Idk what character he can be if Ratchet did provide him with fake claim. If it's a fake claim, he might be lying too about what he can do. His behaviour so far is questionable if he's town. I don't like him claiming as confirmed town just because he's mason despite him knowing it's possible for a scum to be part of it. I don't understand why he insisted on getting my role since his 1st serious post. I gave him my flavor name and he asked me my role again and again.

    @EvilGenius I asked Ratchet if we only have characters from 1-7 and he couldn't confirm that. So for Wraith to be on this game is possible. Shanksette's ability does match her.
    Now Evil, if you are only a Vanilla, there should be no problem to give us your flavor name.
    @Shanksette no other post. Only Panda saying SK is scum. I asked him why and also asked about him not voting mid. No answer until now and I have to deal with new sub again.

    @Ratchet Rise hasn't posted even once. Are you going to replace or modkill him?
     
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