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so when is biden's inauguration at what time. since its already 6 in the morning so less than 18 hours remains for trump

 

10:30 PM Indian Standard Time, according to CNN.

 

13 hrs still to go damn

 

@Shanks

He didn't talk about issues of common people. It was the usual right wing xenophobic bullshit. And he lost the popular vote.

Oh, yeah you missed my explanation on why Biden was actually the best-placed Democratic candidate to beat Trump.

Biden, first and foremost, is a decent family man who appealed to the holier-than-thou family folk of the Bible Belt, especially those dejected with all that Trump represents. And being a staunch centrist whose best friends included Republican lawmakers and even presidents, he was best poised to steal away dejected Republican voters. The man also knows tragedy, knows how to admit he's made a mistake, to learn and adapt, and to appease basically everyone (almost everyone).

Few of the other candidates had what he has.

I was also skeptical of Biden when he was first announced as the Democrat POTUS nominee. But as I learned more about him, I could see why he was chosen.

This is simplifying the issue. There was a whole host of reasons Trump lost this time.

He never would have made a great president. He was always a raging sociopath who put himself before all else. And he was always a xenophobic nutjob. From not wanting black men to do his accounting to being sexually attracted to his 13 year old daughter to associations with child sex traffickers - the Trump we know today is not something new. He's been this way since the 1980s.

Donald Trump's own mother and niece outed his sociopathic tendencies. His mother even once said she never hoped Doland would run for public office.

It was an act. Onset of Lewy Body dementia just made it difficult for him to keep his bullshit up.

 

biden bros be like

 

lmaooo

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-supporters-2650026242/

 

Saw this. Had a nice laugh.

And then you have Trump pardoning Steve Bannon, who collected money from Trump nuts with the promise that he was crowd-funding the Mexico border wall. And then he embezzled it all!

 

I have less expectation on Joe biden btw , he is not exactly the so called liberal , only thing i see major gain is for the dreamers and undocumented workers are usually favored by Democrat politicians and diversity votes usually favor them .

Future of Republican party and why it should move away from Trumpers:

It was good thing Mitch McConnell condemned President's action , Trump would have been arrested if this happened in any other country. I dont think this is end of conservatives in america . Working class and rural folks they should be main draw for the conservative politicians .

Also Republicans should denounce far right at any cost . Matt Gaetz ,Marjorie and other QAnon should not have any voice, none of yhese people represent right wing and small govt . Its time for fresh beginning.

 

since trump didn't pardon himself and his family what happens next?

 

He is not exactly finished as media claims, 73 millions voters voted him so he has certain infulence in Republican party.

Trump jr is already planning to contest for Senate most likely he will be fresh face for the conservative. He lacks Trump's charisma though but overall these guys will have infulence . I dont think any fabric structure in Republican is ever going to change they have been like this since 60s .

 

The point is nor Trump or his children are lovey dovey with all Republicans after capitol riots and him saying he will make another party is only gonna divide GOP. The Ghouls of GOP aren't gonna let this happen.

 

It all depends on who takes the leadership vaccum. None in Republican party has voice to take on Trump.

Mitch was asked to step down by Hannity, Tucker on Fox News , i have not seen Mitch this weak since for like ever.

Unless Joe pursues with punishing ex president for the crime (Highly unlikely) , there will be possible stalemate in senate Trial.

 

This is changing and will keep changing next few weeks. Trump is gone. There is no need for them to suck him off now

like either Hannity or Tucker matter.

it depends. If Trump is convicted many Republicans will have a go in 2024 and it will also help them to keep their voter base intact which will erode if Trump forms a new party

 

"Joe Biden is not exactly the so-called liberal."

I have to disagree with you there, chief.

He built his legal career (albeit brief) as a public defender representing civil rights activists in Delaware charged with rioting and damaging federal property. When he was vice president, he officiated the same-sex wedding of two dudes who served under him in the White House staff. He has always sided with Bernie on equal pay for women, other labour-related issues, and domestic abuse laws. Among his first 17 executive orders were the cancellation of a pipeline that ran through Native American settlements and which was considered a hazard for drinking water supplies, as well as making sure the US stayed in the Paris climate accord and WHO. And he seems to be appointing cabinet members who are supremely qualified and experienced for the positions. He was also adamant on Bernie being Secretary of Labour, but the two men both decided against it in order to not risk Democrat control of the Senate.

Those all look like pretty good liberal credentials.

The only area where Biden's liberal credentials could be questioned is on the issue of fracking. He seems against an outright ban on the practice. But, then again, his personal advisors on climate are all for a ban, and he has shown that he is a man willing to change his stances on being provided ample evidence and sound advice; not as a politician, but as a man willing to admit mistakes and change himself (this was evidenced by his reactions to the inappropriate touching controversies and on his changing stance regarding the Clinton-era crime bill which was considered disastrous on the racial equality front).

Moscow Mitch only did it to save his own skin. The House and Senate are both trying to move towards impeaching seditious members under Article 14(3). Whether anything fruitful will actually come from the endeavour remains to be seen, but it is evident that it and Democrat control of both houses have scared Mitch enough to watch what he says and be a good little turtle.

They won't, unfortunately. Gaetz and his ilk have come to the forefront and become the mainstream among the party. The vast majority of Republics in both houses seem to be of that type. Mitt Romney and other genuinely sane conservatives like him now seem to be a minority.

The only hope for Romney and his ilk is for Tump to come through on his promise to start a new 'Patriot Party' which could see a schism in the current Republic party. The breakaway would be the Nazi fucks who keep eating out of Trump's anus, while the remnants would be the true conservative Republicans of John McCain and Romney's ilk.

He was advised against doing so on the grounds that it would be admission of guilt of all that he is accused of. Even if he had given himself and his family members pre-emptive pardons, they likely would not have endured scrutiny in the SCOTUS (which seems to have turned its back on Trump completely).

What happens next? Trump will face a shitload of legal challenges - a few federal and shit tonne of state level charges. How he answers to and for these remains to be seen.

For now I'm just surprised the daughterfucker didn't run away to Russia or Brazil yesterday.

Mitt Romney, Larry Hogan, Charlie Baker, Phil Scott, and seemingly a large chunk of Republican Reps, Senators, and governors of the northern-most US states and California. Trump's most vocal Republican supporters appear to be from the states that made up the Confederacy.

There will indeed be a stalemate in the Senate trial. The Democrats now have control of it, but they need a two-thirds majority to successfully convict Trump. They do have five or six confirmed Republican senators willing to vote to convict Trump, but they need another eleven or twelve.

Title is right. This is perfect.

Fair point. But the fact that many in the party continue to suck his orange anus is troubling.